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A nuke letter bomb from Christ-ine Russell in today’s Key West Citizen – www.keysnews.com:
Public should know the details
of the city’s boat race deal
Really, Commissioner Mark Rossi?
You think we citizens should be happy with the unknown “concessions” that you negotiated to keep the NASCAR equivalent race boats here in Key West?
When are the citizens going to be let in on the great deal you’ve made for all of us? When are the city commissioners going to be informed of the details from your “hand shake” deal? And what does our city attorney have to say about all of this and your back room deal — no Sunshine here! Not the transparent government you all like to talk about!
Show us the details of what you have gotten the citizens into in terms of costs of services you’ve promised to keep these ecomonsters. Lucky us.
Better yet, why don’t you put this to a vote like you did the channel widening study? You might find out we don’t like what these boats are doing to our environment any better than we like what widening the channel and the cruise ships are doing to our marine wildlife and the environment.
I must have missed the meeting when the commission voted to make you the city representative and negotiator with the power boats. I am aware you were voted the cruise ship representative. I would like to suggest you become the commission’s commercial recycling representative.
The chairman of TWAB stated very clearly said that he was sick of the backroom talk about the races, and did not want to hear anymore about such talks or deals taking place. I hope TWAB takes up this issue and gets some answers.
Let me remind everyone that city staff serves at the pleasure of our elected officials, and our elected officials serve the public’s best interests and desires. Elected politicians should vote to reflect the wishes of their constituents, though you, Commissioner Rossi, failed to do such when you were the lone no vote in conveying the dredging referendum results to the Corps of Engineers, state and federal officials.
At the very least, we are all entitled to know the details of this backroom deal.
why come you went and had yourself another hissy fit? Don’t you ever get tired of kicking over the money changers’ tables in the Conch Testosterone Republic Temple of Capitalanity?
Although I don’t agree it necessarily follows that the majority is always right, and elected officials should blindly do what a perceived majority of their constituents want them to do, in the case of the cruise ships and power boats, there is a player whose stake is infinitely greater than Mark Rossi and his corporate sponsors, and just as infinitely greater than the people of Key West, and that stakeholder is Mother Nature.
Meanwhile, moving laterally, upward and downward, in the hardly mythical cracked egg contest,
from the current issue of www.thebluepaper.com – readers and blue paper editor comments at the end are especially fetching,
“Someone better get him away from me before I arrest the son of a bitch myself!”
When the other officer asked “KA” what she was talking about, according to a witness, she said, “He just murdered that man.” “That Man” was Charles Eimers and “KA” is Kathyann Wanciak of the Key West Police Department, who on Thanksgiving morning, along with other officers, was arresting Eimers on South Beach at the end of Duval St. Within a few minutes Eimers would pass out facedown in the sand, wrists lacerated by tight hand-cuffs, blue in the face, and no longer breathing. He would never regain consciousness. Thousands of people have since seen the video captured by a bystander, which instantly raised questions of excessive force.
It took over 3 weeks for our still confidential source to decide to call someone about what he/she had heard that morning. That was a quickly closing porthole into what really happened that day. If our witness is correct, KA became so infuriated by the egregious behavior of one other officer that for a brief moment she broke the sacrosanct police “code of silence”.
KA’s statement is what’s called an “excited utterance”, a statement so close to a person’s initial perception that it must be true. It’s an exception to the rule against hearsay. In other words, the “He just murdered that man,” statement could be admissible in court as evidence against whoever “he” was.
Since then the crack in the “Blue Wall of Silence” has re-sealed: KA’s official report, like all of the reports submitted by officers on scene that day, was made only after strict order of the Chief of Police and under protest. In KA’s version she supposedly left the scene to go fetch a leg restraint from her car and didn’t come back to the scene until Eimers was already dead. Right…
“She will have to make a choice,” Police Chief Donie Lee told us, “She will have to answer questions, under oath, twice, once during the FDLE investigation and then for the Key West Police internal affairs investigation. If she is aware of something so egregious, she will have to make a choice.”
And that is the “Blue Wall of Silence” for you. “Testilying” is the term used in the world of law enforcement for officers who, under oath, make false statements to procure a conviction or to protect another officer.
So, who is “he”? And how are we ever going to find out if the other officers keep refusing to cooperate? Well, fortunately, another crack just opened in the wall.
Apparently, one officer can’t help but make admissions in front of civilian witnesses. He also is the only officer who was described in KA’s report as having pulled out a Taser. His name is Gary Lee Lovette.
Lovette has the face of a benevolent giant, a Vin Diesel look-a-like with a sleeve of multicolored tattoos. He is a favorite amongst the Crossfit crowd, people who train in ‘extreme gym’, throwing gigantic cement rocks and flipping bulldozer tires up and down the streets.
The following is a verbatim excerpt from a statement given to The Blue Paper this week by a witness who also asked that we protect his/her identity:
“[Lovette] began telling __________ what a crappy Thanksgiving it had been because he was working. He said that they pulled someone over at Southernmost Beach Café. The guy had been driving erratically and was obviously another homeless bum as his car was packed full of his belongings. He said it was obvious he was living out of his car. He said that when the man got out of the vehicle he was swinging and carrying on so badly that they had to take him down. He said that in the scuffle of trying to get handcuffs on him one of the other officers got his pinky stuck in the handcuffs. Officer Lovette stated that he drew his Taser and held it to Charles Eimers’ back. He said he couldn’t use it though because if he would have tased the suspect the officer whose finger was stuck in the cuff would have been tased too. He said that there was two of them, him and another officer that were on the guys back holding him down prone in the sand. He said the guy was obviously on something because he was thrashing his feet out and practically lifting them both off of him. Like he was just like going berserk. Officer Lovette said he slammed his elbow down into the back of his head and the guy quieted down. And then the next thing he knew the guy had lost consciousness. You know he was just basically laughing about it, about how you know he was probably a crack head. Who knows what these people are on and stuff like that. Like it was just like a big joke.”
Some of Lovette’s alleged admissions are consistent with other accounts:
- Sgt. Zamora reported noticing “blood behind [Eimers’] right ear”. Could that have been the result of having been elbowed by Lovette?
- A witness on the beach that day described an officer who held a Taser making a move in the area of Eimers’ neck, which appeared to immediately result in loss of consciousness.
- “The toxicology report,” says Eimers’ son Treavor, “came back negative for both drugs and alcohol.” But Lovette’s assumption that Eimers was intoxicated supports the notion that the officers could have confused Eimers’ desperate efforts to grasp for air with drug-induced resistance.
Is Lovette’s alleged elbowing of Eimers’ head the act denounced by KA as “murder”? With public admissions by one officer and public accusations by another, is the “Blue Wall of Silence” finally crumbling? Not quite. But, amazingly enough things could be a lot worse: As we discovered this week it is only through a pure miracle that the main, most essential component of the evidence in this entire case was not destroyed. Yes, the body of Charles Eimers was very nearly cremated before the medical examiner could perform an autopsy!
“It’s just an extraordinary coincidence,” Bob Dean of Dean Lopez Funeral Home told us, “Under normal circumstances the body would have been cremated.” By law Funeral Homes in Florida must retain bodies for 48 hours prior to conducting a cremation service, allowing time for the medical examiner to request an autopsy. “After a few days we typically cremate the body. It just so happened that our schedule didn’t allow it. If it had been in Miami the body would have been cremated for sure.”
It actually took 7 days from the day Eimers was pronounced dead at the hospital for FDLE to notify the medical examiner. With officers cooperating under protest and with essential evidence reduced to ashes, chances are this investigation would not have gone anywhere.
How could this have happened? As it stands, the policy regarding the custody and protection of evidence is one of the most important parts of police work.
Apparently a decision to perform an autopsy depends on whether the deceased’s physician finds that they died of natural causes or whether it is considered a suspicious death. In Eimers’ case the physician at the hospital initially wrote on the certificate: Died of “Natural Causes”. Eimers’ family signed forms authorizing Dean Lopez Funeral Home to cremate the body; and everything continued along, so conveniently and perfectly wrong.
But how is it possible that the physician had no “suspicions”? To understand this, one must return to the very beginning. The official version of Eimers’ death was based on Lovette’s account, written down that day in officer Celcer’s Incident Report: Eimers “exited the car and began actively fighting their attempts to take him into custody.“ He fought the police until, all of a sudden, he collapsed, presumably from a heart attack. Officers tried to revive him. According to Eimer’s son Treavor, that was the story that detective Todd Stevens told him when he visited his dad at the hospital on December 4th.
Arguably, the same story could have been served to the physician, together with the many bottles of heart medication found inside Eimers’ car and confirmation by Treavor Eimers that his dad had been diagnosed with congestive hear failure two months earlier. The physician logically concluded that Charles Eimers worked himself into a heart attack caused by pre-existing heart issues. But it appears that the story was just that: a story. Eimers did not collapse all of a sudden and “According to what the medical examiner told me,” says Treavor Eimers who is a Nurse Anesthesiologist, “my father’s death was not caused by a cardiac event.”
Witnesses and a video of the arrest have now brought up a much darker version of the terrifying, agonizing last moments of Charles Eimers, a tourist-for-a-day in our so-called ‘Paradise”.
And if not for a strange suite of quasi-miracles, if anyone is to blame in Charles Eimers’ death, he almost got away with it.
EDITOR’S CLARIFICATION 1/4/13: The “make a choice” quote from Chief of Police, Donie Lee appears to be misconstrued by some readers. In the context of the interview, “she will have to make a choice” clearly meant the Chief was expecting his officers to tell the truth. The conversation included extensive detail regarding the possible administrative actions that could be taken against officers who refuse to cooperate in the investigation. [The goal here is to arrive at the truth.]
IMPORTANT NOTE TO READERS: If you have any information about the death of Charles Eimers please come forward and contact us at The Blue Paper (305) 304-6882. We have reason to believe there was a full video captured during the arrest of Charles Eimers. If you have such a video or know someone who has such a video please contact us. If you were present and overheard conversations that morning on the beach or have overheard police officers discussing the incident thereafter please come forward.
Also chasing the cracked egg of the year award, maybe of the century, further enlightenment with Key West’s self-appointed “Bad news for Non-Christians; egg on someone’s face?” master Christian theologian, Tim Gratz, starting with two bytes posted yesterday, then moving to new heights, and new depths, re a rumor which went viral, as God had intended, that Pope Francis said all who do good, even Atheists, go to heaven when they die …
Tim wrote to me:
I have not researched it myself but that is according to Rev. Jemley. If it was a hoax, as it appears it was, it was quite a hoax to fool even Huffington. I do know that there is no ongoing Third Vatican Council and that should have been a big clue. I don’t have time to investigate it but hopefully you can. The hoax becomes an interesting story,
The hoax is the cheap salvation men invented some time after Jesus introduced the real salvation for those willing to go for it. The real salvation wasn’t a very good seller. The hoax sold much better. Lucifer was delighted.
You need to stop dropping names on me, Tim. It never has worked for you do to that, and it probably won’t work in the future. It has the unintended, by you, consequence of getting the people whose names you dropped called out in my daily blogs.
Pastor Tim, being the latest casualty of your name dropping.
It’s real easy to say you are a Christian, to say you are saved. It is something else entirely to do what Jesus would do. Pastor Tim told me he would go with my friend Patrick to take food to that injured homeless woman, whom I then told to expect to see Pastor Tim, who did not bring her food. Not only did Pastor Tim not do what Jesus would do, Pastor Tim did not do what he told me he would do, all of which Jesus observed.
Salvation is far from cheap. It was purchased by Jesus’ painful death on the cross. it was a horrible thing for both God and Jesus. Can you imagine watching your child die?
But they did it because they loved you, Sloan.
All your good works, and I know you do them, cannot get you into heaven.
I will check with Pastor Tim re that incident.
Actually, Tim, I pretty much did watch my son die; and many years later, in a dream, I relived what it was like for him to die.
The difference between Jesus and you, Tim, just for example, is he knew God was his father and you seem not to have gotten there yet. We are all God’s sons and daughters, Tim, every last one of us people on this world, before now, now, and to come.
Can you imagine a Father damning all but maybe .00001 percent of his children to burn in hell forever, because they were not born again in spirit, as Jesus meant when he said for someone to enter the Kingdom of God, he must be born again in spirit? Were you born again in spirit, Tim, like Peter was born again in spirit? Do you know anyone who was born again in that way? Actually, you do.
Can you imagine a father damning all of his children, who do not believe according to a book as interpreted by Christians like you, Tim? Actually, I know you believe that, and I know you will find out when you pass from this life, if not sooner, just how mistaken you were, and you will remember our conversations on this subject.
Meanwhile, since you are so sure you have it all figured out, why in the bloody hell, Tim, aren’t you boozing it up, fucking as many women as possible, robbing banks, running around naked on Duval Street? Hell, man, you are saved forever. What’s to loose by having a good darn time doing bad?
My oldest male Bashinsky cousin, raised by Baptist parents, whom I loved dearly, and who, by your born-again definition, are burning in hell forever, sent this the other day, which I figured I might have use for sooner or later:
“Go to Heaven for the weather, go to Hell for the company.” Mark Twain
Either way works for me.
God does not damn people. But it is impossible for Him to be with persons whose sins have not been cleansed by His Son’s sacrifice. I think that God was required to provide that sacrifice for atonement; he could not have done it otherwise.
As I am sure you know the Bible says that God wants ALL to be saved.
Now do I wish friends who likely have not accepted Jesus to escape hell and be in Heaven with God? Well, of course I do.
Should it happen that I die and discover you were right I sure will remember thse conversations and find you so you can say, nicely, I told you so.
But I cannot risk my own salvation or those of friends by ignoring what seems to be the clear teaching of Scripture.
You asked why I was not doing a bunch of evil things since I am convinced I am eternally saved. Never had interest in booze but I sure like women and the lures of the flesh. But I fight hard against those temptations because I know it would grieve the God who saved me.
for some Christians God even takes away temptations. Moreover, I believe that I am still married (in God’s eyes) to the woman who divorced me. I would not remarry for that reason, as hard as it is to live alone
But best to you, Sloan!
Well, dang, Tim, you seem almost sane in this last missive :-). Alas, you speak for God as if you are God, which ain’t even remotely close to sane. Did you forget, yes, it seems you did, with God, all things are possible? I’m telling you now, I told you so. God don’t like end zone gloating any more than human referees like it. Unsportsman-like conduct ain’t encouraged. Sloan
All things are NOT possible with God. For instance God is not capable of sin.
And as I said, one minister agrees with me that it was not possible for God to provide salvation other than trough the sacrificial death of His son. One would certainly think He would not have made His son suffer and die if there was any other way.
Please be careful who you accuse of being sane!
Tim, you continue to speak for God, as if you are God. God is capable of anything. All things were created by God. Even Lucifer. Everything in the creation was created by God. Even sin. Nothing exists, which was not created by God. Even you and the one minister who agrees with you. To argue otherwise is to argue God did not create everything, so what created what God did not create – God’s creator?
At www.goodmorningbirmingham.com, at the top of the top middle menu, is a file entitled A Few Remarkable People I Have Known. The first story/profile, He Used to Drink Moonshine, is of the US District Judge for whom I clerked after graduating from law school. The most godly man, easily, I have known in this life. By your standard, he is burning forever in hell. I’m sure God finds that amusing.
In God’s eyes, Tim, all human beings are insane, including you and the one minister who agrees with you. Lucky for me, and for you and that one minister, that God love loves angels, saints, sinners, devils and fools alike, for all are God’s children.
Interesting Sloan. Some deep theological questions there. Too early for me to comment, Will consider.
Tim, you will never get to know God by thinking. Only though experience can you get to know God, and then only in small bits and pieces.
If you take my suggestion and go to www.goodmorningbirmingham.com and open A Few Remarkable People I Have Known, you might first wish to read the short intro, which is how God arranged for that little book to be written, when I had no clue a book was about to be written. Then, read the first portrait, about the federal judge. Then, you might wish to read the next five portraits.
The second is about the most Godly woman I ever knew in this life, who, just being a Christian, but not born again by your standard, also is burning in hell forever, which also surely amuses God. The other four portraits are about other people who influenced me, who by your standard, one was an Episcopal Priest, also are burning in hell forever, which also must amuse God.
P.S. to Tim:
The “Shanghaied” poem at the end of A Few Remarkable People I Have Known, initially was not part of the little book, but later I was told to add it to the back cover, perhaps because it preceded the little book by only a few months. The poem paints my relationship with God about as well as anything that ever came out of me.
God’s judge, photo above, when he was younger than when I knew him, came to me in a dream after I fell asleep on a Greyhound bus entering Tallahassee in mid-December 2000, bound ultimately to Key West, to be homeless there. Judge Allgood said, “I”m thinking about getting into politics.” I said, “I don’t think that’s a good idea Judge, but knowing you, you are going to do it.” I awoke in shock, knowing I was going to be getting into politics, which I detested.
Back in the day, Judge Allgood had run the Democratic Party in Alabama behind the scenes. That was the political party in Alabama back then. Nobody ran for state or federal office in Alabama, without getting Judge Allgood’s blessing. Office aspirants who received his blessing were thrilled. I was anything but thrilled when I came out of that dream. And I was anything but thrilled the seven times I later ran for local office in Key West and the Florida Keys. I ain’t thrilled about what lies ahead for me this year, either. This lady below pretty well sums up my sentiments.
Her friend below, well, I wish she had stayed in her green pasture beside still waters.
Meanwhile, also from the current issue of www.thebluepaper.com:
On March 30, 2001, Mr. Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak out against a bill that would have protected babies who had survived a late term labor-induced abortion.
Mr. Obama explained that he voted against this bill because it determined that a nine-month-old fetus, living outside of the womb of its mother, which survived a late term labor-induced abortion, would be deemed to be a person, therefore, it would have a constitutional right to live.
Mr. Obama further explained that he could not vote for a bill that designated this late term abortion survivor as a person. For if he did, this young life would have to be safeguarded under the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which would not allow the life of this unwanted baby to be terminated.
Therefore, this living child lying on the surgeon’s table, instinctively crying for help, had to be deemed a discardable fetus.
On three separate occasions, as an Illinois senator, Mr. Obama voted against a bill that would require medical treatment for a baby that was born alive after a botched late term labor-induced abortion.
On May 30, 2012, President Obama gave the Medal of Freedom to retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens. This justice concurred with Justice Breyer’s opinion, finding that it was OK to: “Deliberately and intentionally deliver into the vagina a living unborn child, or a substantial portion thereof, for the purpose of performing a procedure that the person performing such procedure knows will kill the unborn child”.
It was further determined that: “Evidence before the trial court makes clear that this procedure will often involve a physician pulling a “substantial portion” of a still living fetus, say, an arm, head or leg, into the vagina prior to the death of the fetus”.
Their opinion continued that: “This procedure involves dismemberment… the dismemberment occurs between the traction of the instrument and the counter-traction of the cervix. And these events often do not occur until after a portion of a living fetus has been pulled into the vagina.”
Medal of Freedom winner Stevens said that preserving the right to dismember what he called a “potential life” was really a question about the “liberty” of the mother protected by the 14th Amendment.
As described by these justices, butchering a viable fetus or a baby is horrifying. Partial-birth abortions are particularly gruesome.
The following data was extracted from studies and informational sites that I reviewed. The United States has the highest abortion rate of any western industrial nation. Less than 1% of all abortions take place because of rape or incest. Approximately forty percent of unwanted pregnancies are aborted. There are about 1.21 million abortions in America each year. With a gestational age of 21+ weeks, statistics indicate that there are 18,185 abortions performed each year in America.
All of the information that I researched indicated that less than 1% of abortions are performed to save the life of the mother.
It appears to me that the deck is stacked against the most defenseless of God’s creatures. Willing accomplices imbedded in our government are all too eager to direct a woman in crisis to the abortionist’s table. To those who have been terminated, along with the mothers who have endured the suffering and loss that accompanies this archaic procedure, I pledge my love and support.
No one in this world is perfect. The blood on my hands troubles me to this day. Asking for forgiveness, hasn’t always brought it to me.
Life goes on. I’ve attempted to improve myself and share what I may have of value, with my Brothers and Sisters. All the time knowing that my gifts will always be imperfect and incomplete. Atonement has been good for my soul.
In this new year I will make an earnest effort to learn from my failures and mistakes. I will strive to live in accordance with the will of the God of my understanding. I will seek to think less about myself, losing my restlessness, irritability and discontent in the resultant joy that comes when I’m involved helping others. Not much else has worked for me.
John Donnelly, a resident of Key Largo was born, raised and went to high school in the South Bronx. Upon graduation he was awarded several scholarships to college. He chose to enlist in the United Sates Marine Corps.
While serving in Vietnam John was wounded in action. He received two meritorious promotions, one during combat.
Upon discharge and return to America, John had a difficult time transitioning back into civilian life. He found himself homeless for the next 4 years.
As he worked out some troublesome concerns, he began to yearn to make some sense of his experiences via education. He sought and received his GI Bill benefits. He applied and was admitted to New York University. He later transferred to the University of Miami where he graduated on the President’s Honor Roll.
John secured a teaching position at a Maximum Security Prison Facility for criminally insane adolescents. While working there he earned a Master of Science degree from Florida International University. He graduated Summa Cum Laude.
John spent the next 20 years teaching elementary and high school students, while doing some coaching and instructing as an adjunct college professor.
John was the recipient of the Mayor Stephen P. Clark award, which recognized him as an “Outstanding Educator”. During this time he continued his work clothing, feeding and counseling the homeless.
John has been acknowledged by the Disabled American Veterans, the Miami Vet Center and the Veterans Council of Monroe County for his efforts on behalf of homeless and addicted veterans.
Recently, John was privileged to spearhead the successful release of a wrongfully accused inmate who faced 3 life sentences, without the possibility of parole, for crimes that he did not commit. This young man has since been returned to his twin sons and graduated with honors from one of our nation’s premier vocational colleges.
John continues to research and write on issues facing our ‘One Human Family’.
23 THOUGHTS ON “CONFRONTING VIOLENCE PREPARES THE SOUL TO BE HEALED…”
Compelling, horrific and frightening. An advocate for those silently slaughtered has come forward. Narcissistic self-indulgence has rid the women’s movement of its integrity and credibility. Crazed women, their polices and politicians will subscribe to dismembering a baby born alive during a bumbled late-term labor induced abortion.
Evil flourishes, as alleged good people bow their heads and remain silent, while this practice is touted has legal and acceptable.
Infanticide is not the mark of an enlightened society or advanced civilization. It’s a culturally depraved practice signaling a psychoses that has become the norm.
Thank you for having the courage and concern to publish this extraordinary piece. Many children are abused and neglected in this country by being given a second-class education, raised in crime infested and poverty stricken neighborhoods, bullied and beaten by violent adults and peers in their lives; without ever providing them a safe environment to protect them.
We take kids from dangerous homes and place them in the care of DCF. A study of the violent crimes perpetrated upon children under the care of DCF, is an abhorrent testament to the unimportance attached to these innocent lives.
I will not stay silent on this issue any longer. I’ve always known that under most circumstances abortion was wrong. What ever happened to all the free birth control devices and products? Abortion has simply become another means of birth control.
I went along with the crowd. I wanted to be accepted. Not any longer. Tearing a baby apart like a piece of garbage is beyond anything that I can imagine.
As a nation we have reaped what we’ve sown. This practice is beyond a violent act. Many would call it murder.
Obama’s holy grail has been faced off. What nature of Man or Women would be all in on partial-birth abortion. What have we come to as a People, when our Supreme Court describes in detail the absolute butchery of a baby, and sites it as legal. Obama gives one of the justices the medal of freedom.
Decadence, delusional thinking and the arrogance that comes form ignorance; has deadened our spirit and dulled our minds, as the empire falls.
would one expect more from our ‘king of drones’? do we expect any different from the manchurian candidate in chief? he was a made man by the NWO to carry out the ‘elitist one world order’ directives. this man and all he promotes is a sham.
(I heard there’s a big sale on tin foil at WalMart, just in case you’re running low on hats…..)
of course lybrand i would expect that typical libtard response. obama’s actions speak for me while his words are meaningless. one question though….have you ever wondered why millions of dollars have been spent on legal fees to seal and keep in the dark any and all records of his past history? ever wonder just a little?
and once again do you support agenda 21?
Very timely, as I’ve recently asked my relatives on facebook what they “Like” about Hillary other than her having a vagina. Only replies are her pro-abortion views. Ugh.
As a libertarian I do not want government to decide what kind of medical procedure I can have or not have.
I have never given the abortion issue much thought until I was engaged to an OB.She would view the abortion procedure on ultra sound.She told me she was able to see the fetus push the abortion dismembering tool away with its little hands . The tool resembles a noose on a pole.The fetus was trying to protect itself from this tool that was hurting it.
I was horrified after learning this. I was always told that the fetus was just a clump of cells with no feelings.This is the media trained answer that they indoctrinate young women with.
It is my view if more mothers were able to see what they were about to kill, that it is not just a clump of cells, they would not procead with the abortion.
I hope the Blue will allow me to post this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdj7zKGiDNw
Staunchly defending the indefensible. Is this the liberal attraction sought after by women in this country. Get knocked up and at whatever stage of development the young life residing in your whom has attained, it will be ripped out and dismembered, upon your command. How Progressive———-
Birth Control available on demand—-Religious Communities that hold these practices to be immoral are required by the government to provide these services under penalty of law. Elementary schools are made to instruct their students as to the methods and practices of birth control. Health Clinics provide free contraceptive devices to everyone.
Yet in a recent study, 49% of pregnancies were found to be unintended. Of these unwanted pregnancies 54% ended in abortion.
Reckless and irresponsible, we must have our fun.
A nation that conveniently kills its young, while pontificating about human rights and the sanctity of life, is an empty vessel devoid of any decency and honor. Obama and his minions sponsor this type of murder. They’re ruthless attacks upon the fabric of this once great nation continues.
What Obama did that proved to me he ought not be President was he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize while waging the two stupid, evil wars of his predecessor, G.W. Bush, who should have been prosecuted for treason and mass murder and maiming of American and Islamic troops, and Islamic civilians, and mental, emotional and spiritual mass murder and maiming of American and Islamic families, as should have been prosecuted his successor.
I wish Obama prosecutors gave G.W. Bush the same equal prosecution under the law they visit on Obama.
sloan a whole string of them should have been locked up and the key thrown away. here is a snip from my post to mr symington this weekend…
“we are governed by a one party system of two sides and have been now for at least 40 years from my observation. its a terrible state of affairs and purely collectivist in nature be it government or military or corporate. notice how all are marching to the sound of the same drum and it sure ain’t the constitution by any stretch of the imagination. a one party system as a 2 sided coin. heads they win tails they win. a fascist state indeed after connecting the dots.”
Please watch this video of pro abortin radical feminist in Argentina Last month they tried to destroy a catholic church . They were angry with the churches anti abortion view.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOCD_T9Qqpc
Yikes! I’ll never understand how people can blindly follow a person or movement without having fully researched its origins. Gloria Steinem is an admitted CIA operative. Here’s another video on the state of our cult-ure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8–9R0I2Q
That’s rich – a Marine against killing infants! Served in Vietnam, too.
How many infants and pregnant mothers did our “Christian” country kill in ‘Nam? How many in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Napalm burned children alive, burned pregnant mothers alive, and our nation supported it.
Depleted uranium shells killed children and pregnant mothers, and we shouted “support the troops!”
We love the Republican Presidents who started those wars, never thinking the truth: we LOVE abortion when it’s strangers half a world away.
“Kill ‘em all, let God sort it out” is our national war cry. With biblical authority – God ORDERED the Israelites to kill EVERYONE in the land that he gave to them as “the promised land”. EVERYONE – infants, pregnant women, the elderly, the sick, e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e. And the Bible says that they did as God commanded, killing every living soul.
Remind me: where is this “sanctity of life” I keep hearing about?
Who needs videos on the state of our culture, unless it’s the only way to get to the bottom of something – ie., the bystander’s video of KW’s finest smothering a suspected homeless bum to death on South Beach. I don’t have to go anywhere but to the evening news on just about any TV station to see just how screwed up humanity is.
I wonder if that’s the same Bible passage where the Israelites killed all the livestock and salted the ground, too? Or did I read that in a comic book? Looks to me that Jesus in the Gospels tried to undo that kind of doing things, but the way in god we trust American presidents, with plenty of go for it from lots of Americans, don’t seem to jive even a tiny bit with Jesus in the Gospels. No matter, salvation has nothing to do with how Christians behave, I keep hearing from Christians. I think maybe I could go live in Afghanistan and hear much the same from Taliban leaders about killing people because god is on their side makes it okay.
I came, finally, to look at abortion in this way: In nearly all cases, it is very hard on the mother spiritually, and often it is hard on the father spiritually. However, I do not feel it is my call, what a woman chooses to do with an unborn child she does not want to bring to term. And, I do not know, nor do I know anyone who does know, when a soul attaches to an unborn child. I think somewhere in the Old Testament is something about a soul being breathed into someone, maybe it was Adam, and he became a living being.
In the latter 1980s, I started learning about what psychiatrists and psychologists call “projection”, which takes up a great deal of the pages in ‘A Course in Miracles’, which became popular a few years before that.
An example of projection is seeing something going on, which does not concern us directly, is not right in front of us, which punches our buttons and causes a strong or violent emotion in us, even though we ourselves are not threatened.
In 12 Step circles, they deal with what they call the “rescue syndrome,” which is getting caught up in this or that cause to save someone, or someones, who in some way, or in various ways remind them of themselves, so actually it is them they are rushing in to rescue. The rescue syndrome is viewed as a psychic addiction.
A parallel, they rush in to rescue because they did something awful to someone, or to someones, and they didn’t get over that, and now something out there has brought that back to them and they try to save the person, or the people, who represent the person, or the people, they treated badly in the past.
I came to think all crusades, all causes, if they persist, are rooted in projection of unresolved soul/psychic wounding.
In the right to life, right to choice arena, I came to see the two opposing sides as mirroring each other.
In the unborn child, the pro-lifers see themselves when they were “killed” in some way in the past, so they are compelled to stop the unborn child from being killed, thus saving themselves, without realizing that is what they are trying to do.
In the mother who wants an abortion, the pro-choicers see themselves when they were denied getting to choose, which for them was like being killed in the soul sense, and they rush in to save the mother’s right to choose, thus try to save themselves, who in the past had their right to chose taken from them.
I have held that view, basically, since the late 1980s, and so far the angels who run me have not told me I was full of shit, although plenty of people have told me that for a variety of reasons .
It was my experience with soul healing, and it was the experience of other people I knew, that rushing into to stop something which pushed our buttons did not result in soul healing, and if we rushing in violently, it actually exacerbated out own soul wounds which were being raised by what on the outside of us punched out buttons.
We found, if we did not react, if we just let the awful feelings have us, if we marinated in the awful feelings, we actually did experrience soul healing to a degree. We found it to be a process, our buttons got pushed, we did not rush into stop or fix it, and we experiences a bit more soul healing. Over and over our buttons were getting pushed and we were making progress healing in our souls, if we did not react.
Now, this is not the same as seeing, for example, a woman, or a child, being attacked on a sidewalk, for example, and not trying to stop it oursleves, while calling the 911, if we have a cell phone handy. That’s probably what any Marine would do after returning to civilian life. I have done it, and I was [not] a Marine, nor did I serve in any branch of the US armed services.
“A Course in Miracles” basically is a year-long course in not reacting to what punches our buttons. I did not do the Course, but read the text in 1988 and understood I was already on a similar program being run by the angels who had me in tow. I came to see it had the same intent as Jesus, in the Gospels, saying to turn the other cheek; resist not one who does evil; first take the beam out of your own eye; judge not unless you wish to be judged in kind; if someone takes your goods ask not for them back; it someone asks for your shirt offer also your coat; if someone takes you to court settle along the way.
It was also my experience with soul healing, and I saw others experience it, there are soul wounds it seems only angels can heal, and their methods are not always a lot of fun, usually, they took us right back into the original trauma with our eyes, ears, minds and emotions wide open, and this happened lots of times, and finally we have relived all of that soul wound, and then we were treated to the same thing with another soul wound, and then another soul wound …
We were not treated to miracle instant healings, like is reported in the Gospels. We were treated to seeing what cause it, sometimes it was us, something we had done to someone else, which injured our on souls, sometimes it was what other people had done to us, which injured out own souls. We never knew what was coming next, but we knew it was coming, and as we went into and through it, we became aware of what it was about, and it often was quite emotional, and it sometimes was violent and sometimes was terrifying. But it passed each time, and we emerged seemingly in tact, and then it started again.
And even after all of that, there was still plenty left, often it was karma, which was not fixed and we were allowed to be taken through it like with soul wound healing, but the karma transit was not uplifting, it was an ordeal, it was out of our control, it ran until it was finished, it took time, sometimes a long time, There were various threads rooted in different past experiences in this life, and in past lives.
The over all sense was, were were being woken up, shown a much bigger picture; it seemed, we were seeing in this life what we otherwise would see after we left this life; perhaps we were saving having to do it after we left this life.
We lived in this world, and in another world, all the time, and there were few, to no, other people around us who were in it with us, or understood what we were experiencing. They could not understand without experiencing it.
Or maybe there is right and there is wrong. Murder is going against Natural Law. Please search Mark Passio’s lectures and podcasts on this.
Serving 26 months as a rifleman in Vietnam with a Marine infantry unit, I witnessed the conduct of the force that I commanded under every manner of circumstance.
Rising through the ranks, at every level of contact with the civilian population we prioritized our humane treatment of that nation’s citizens. Along with tending to the medical needs of all children, we gave our own medicines, food, water and whatever could be used for shelter to these villagers.
Even though Marines had been killed and wounded by enemy fire that came from the villages and hamlets that we passed through, Never Once, did we not tend with humanitarianism to the inhabitants of said village.
Through all of the enormous suffering that we endured, these Marines voluntarily treated, feed, clothed and offered shelter to every civilian that came their way; during the course of my 26 months.
For a time I lived in some of the hamlets with the babies, children, moms and dads. With a small contingent of Marines we built wells and constructed minor infrastructure improvements that enhanced the quality of their lives.
At night we set up ambushes, to stop the VC and NVA from taking their children to serve as prostitutes. We prevented their meager supplies from being stolen from the same group.
We protected their lives, for when they refused to go along with the demands of the VC and NVA, they were tortured and executed.
Unfortunately for most, they will remain ignorant and never know the truth about which I have written.
One of my wives once was one of the protesting Kent State students the Ohio National Guard did not hit when they opened fire. Vietnam was brutal for everyone involved. Looks to me like Iraq and Afghanistan are later Vietnams for USA. Brutal for everyone involved. Except, perhaps, the US corporations getting rich from war.
I googled Mark Passio on abortion and didn’t find anything. What I shared in this comment thread today was my own personal direct experiences and illuminations, for which I take no credit other than having had them because something far bigger and far smarter and far stronger (all proven countless times) than me wanted me to have them. Anyone can believe anything he/she wishes, but belief is not the same as reality, and can have nothing to do with reality. Subconscious drives, which are not known to the conscious mind, drive most human behavior and thinking and beliefs. Most people live out their lives being driven by subconscious drives, without knowing what drives them. It’s quite and eye-opening experience to be woken up out of that slumber, for me it wasn’t a whole lot of fun, and certainly it’s only been a wee awakening, given how large the subconscious is compared to the conscious mind. If I did not have angels nudging me this way and that, correcting me this way and that, I would be about the same mostly sleeping man I was before they decided to run this experiment on me, is the way I, the lab rat, view it.
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It just don’t seem too smart for the Monroe County Commission, Florida Keys Aqueduct Authority’s Board, Florida State House of Representatives Holly Raschein and Florida Governor Rick Scott to piss off Mother Nature, God and a United States District Judge because of how they went about sewering the lower Florida Keys