the work of the Devil in America

America failed because

 

Received this yesterday from a Lower Keys amiga:
Sloan, Just got this email this morning after reading yours. I think you will find it interestingly ‘coincidental’, especially the paragraph starting with “Probably.”
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Very interesting (true) remarks!!!
Subject:
Remarks on CBS on Sunday morning – Thank you Ben Stein
Ben Stein
Remarks on CBS on Sunday morning
A little sanity please..  

The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

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My confession: I don’t like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don’t think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can’t find it in the Constitution and I don’t like it being shoved down my throat…

 

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren’t allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that’s a sign that I’m getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

 

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it’s not funny, it’s intended to get you thinking. In light of recent events… terrorists attack, school shootings, etc..

 

I think it started when Madeleine MurrayO’Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn’t want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school… The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

 

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock’s son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he’s talking about.. And we said okay.. Now we’re asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

 

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with ‘WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.’

 

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

 

Are you laughing yet?

 

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you’re not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

 

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

 

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not, then just discard it… no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don’t sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.

 

My Best Regards,

 

Honestly and respectfully,

 

Ben Stein

 

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Mi Lower Keys amiga linked Stein’s paragraph starting with “Probably” with this in yesterday’s the forest for the trees – American and human pasttime, two shamen bat that and a Divine Intervention of the feminine around post:
But even if there was another shooter, or other shooters, we still have Adam Lanza there killing people with his mother’s guns. And we still have that horror being American karma for its drone attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And we still have a nation not connecting those dots. A nation that does not believe, despite hearing it in church and reading it in the Bible: As you sow, you reap. That is the Law. If you don’t believe me, ask any Christian minister.
What jumped out at me in what Ben Stein wrote was the paragraph after the paragraph starting with “Probably”.
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
I write about God frequently, and am ridiculed for it. I am ridiculed for saying I run for public office only because God tells me to do it. I am ridiculed because I say angels tell me what to write each day, and how to write it. Just last night, in dreams, they modified a draft of this post, which I had worked on most of yesterday. They told me to remove the parts that had to do with shamen, and to focus only on God being surpressed in the school and workplace, in America.
Fowarded messages sent to me about God and the Bible in schools are twisted to hell and back, passages are cherry picked out of context, agendas are pushed, and sometimes I reply to those forwards and sometimes I delete them despite the predictable challenge at the bottom to forward it – otherwise, I am a devil-worshipper.
I spoke on the phone yesterday with Sandy Downs, who said she was reading Corinthians and  felt kinship with Paul saying there was a time when it was so rough on him that there was no life and spirit, and no reason to want to live – that came after his comeuppance on the Road to Damascus, in a Dark Night of the Soul, of which little is told in the New Testament.
I told Sandy that when I was still in a killer Dark Night, an older Christian woman I was getting to know told me that she was seized one night to write down two legal sheets longhand, addressed to me. In one part, I was told to read Acts and Corinthians over and over. I told Sandy that Acts lays the foundation for Corinthians, where Paul mostly is preaching. In Acts, God works Paul over, and Peter, too.
I told Sandy of a Helen, Georgia Methodist minister friend who was of the view, if you didn’t attend church several times a week, you would die and burn in hell forever. The same minister once told me he wanted his church to be an Acts 2 church. I laughed, asked was he sure about that? He said he was sure. I said those people were communists! Sandy said they shared all they had with each other.
I said yes, all but one man and woman who had said they had put all they had into the common pot, but they had not. Peter asked the man if he had said he and his wife had put all they had into the common pot, and the man said yes. Peter told the man they had held back part of what they had, and the man said yes. Peter said he was sorry and the man dropped dead. Then, Peter went and told the man’s wife what had happened, and she dropped dead.
I told Sandy Acts tells how God brought Peter and Paul to where they were of use to God. In Acts, God told Paul he was to go to Rome. Acts tells how Paul got there, pretty strenuous. Acts does not say that Paul ended up in prison for being a Christian, and wrote his letters from that prison and eventually was beheaded, which is how Roman citizens were executed for capital offenses – in Paul’s case, being a Christian. Non-Roman citizen Christians were crucified. I said the beheading is not in the New Testament, but it is in the Rome church’s literature. Great treat God prepared for Paul, and later for Peter, who also went to Rome and ended up being crucified, upside down at his request. That is not in the New Testament, either, but is in the Rome church’s literature.
Maybe if they told stories like those in public schools and work places, I would be okay with it. But my experience is that is not what fundamental Christians want to do in public schools. They want to proselytize, recruit, brainwash, shame, condemn, and that is precisely what the Founding Fathers never wanted to see happen in America, which they plainly stated in the First Amendment, as far as I am concerned. There had been quite enough of that in England and Europe, and far worse, done to non-believers, and even to believers whose beliefs were not identical to the believers in the majority, that would be the Rome church until the Church of England happened because a king wanted to get a divorce and marry someone else, and the Rome church would not allow it.
An Alabama Supreme Court Justice, Roy Moore, as I recall his name, was impeached and removed from the bench by his fellow Justices, after he refused to remove the Ten Commandments and other Bible sayings he had installed in the Alabama Supreme Court building in Montgomery. That case made national headlines quite a few times. It continued to come back around. Fundamental Christians around America took it up as a cause for being, as proof that the courts were anti-God. Actually, the courts were anti-fundamental Christian takeover of the courts, schools, public workplace, America. The very thing the First Amendment was passed to prevent a repeat of what had happened in Europe and England.
I told Sandy that around the time my north Georgia Methodist minister friend told me he wanted his church to be an Acts 2 church, I asked him where the Devil would hide if the Devil didn’t want anyone to know he was there? The minister said he didn’t know. I said in a church. I told Sandy, since Jesus, Michael and Melchizedek had gotten hold of me, I had been in many churches and the presence of Lucifer was palpable in all of those churches.
Sandy said it says in the Bible that Satan cannot stand the sound of Jesus’ name, and so how could Satan stand to be in a church? I said churches mostly don’t know Jesus and there is nothing in them to threaten Lucifer. Sandy said it again. I should have said, well, the Devil wasn’t afraid to talk to Jesus in the wilderness during the Three Temptations, after which the Devil left Jesus to return at a more opportune time, according to that passage in the Gospels.
I reminded Sandy that I had gone to a Glad Tiding’s service in Key West at her urging, for me to give that church one more chance. Right off the bat in the service, Pastor Ernie De Loach told his congregation, “You are the choicest of the choicest of the Chosen.” I asked Sandy, what minister would tell his congregation that? I said I left shortly after hearing that, and I told her what had happened and it was what she was supposed to hear, since she had pushed me to give Glad Tidings one more chance. I said it had bounced off her head, as had my telling her of my prior experiences with Lucifer in that church’s services. I said she didn’t want to hear it, so she ignored it, even the last time, which was arranged by God for her to hear from me.
I told Sandy I sure hoped she was not pushing her son Marshall to be a church person. She said she wasn’t, it was coming from Marshall. Lots of his friends attend church, do fun, wholesome things together. If Marshall were my son, I would tell him about the fun wholesome things I had seen done to people in churches. I would tell him about Acts, and about that Helen, Georgia Methodist minister.
I would tell Marshall that I told Sandy yesterday that I kept dreaming the Methodist minister was going to have a heart attack and die (he’d already had one heart attack), if he did not stop preaching. Unable to get his attention, I finally sent his wife a letter about what I was dreaming, and I said it was on her and him to deal with it. A letter from a homeless person who was seen hitchhiking daily all around that community.
I told Sandy the minister then retired from preaching, but he wanted to remain involved and be a supervisor of Methodist churches in that part of Georgia. Then, I had another dream in which I was asked if that would be okay for him? I said no, obviously it was not okay, he needed to be doing something else entirely, but if that was the best that could happen, then so be it. I said that to the angels. I had no further human communication with the minister or his wife.
I would be fine with the Bible, Old and New Testaments, and the Hebrew Scriptures, and the Koran, and the Buddhist and Hindu Scriptures, and the Taoist Scriptures, and other Scriptures being taught in public schools, and being discussed in the workplace, if presented as history, and not in the way fundamental Christians want to present the Bible in public schools and in the workplace. In all religions are admonitions against evil-doing, but you can bet the farm fundamental Christians believe all but they are going to die and burn in hell, and only they, on the other hand, will die and go to heaven. That work of the Devil I will never be okay with in public schools on in the workplace, nor will I ever be okay with public money being used to fund Christian schools.
I told Sandy when we were wrapping up our talk yesterday, that I felt awful, there was an awful poison coming in, into which I would be writing; I didn’t know yet what it was, but it was seriously big Evil.
I forgot to tell Sandy about something that happened in that north Georgia minister’s church in 2004. In a Sunday school class, I listened to the teacher, who belonged to a bikers for Christ club, and the entire class of men and women about my age rail against Muslims and how they all should be killed, perfect strangers, men, women and children. Finally, I exploded. I asked, didn’t they read the Bible? Didn’t they know anything about Jesus? Resist not one who does evil? Forego an eye for and eye? Turn the other cheek? Do good to and pray for their enemies? Didn’t they know God told Abraham that Ishmael’s seed (Isalm) would cause Isaac’s seed (Judaism, Christendom) trouble? If God predicted it, what were they complaining about? You could have heard a pin drop.
I imagine fundamental Christians will blame the courts, the ACLU, liberals, etc. for what a demon-possessed young man did at Sandy Hook School, with plenty of help from his NRA mother. I imagine fundamental Christians will argue, if the Bible had been in that school, if public prayer in Jesus’ name had been allowed in that school, the shooter would not have gone there and did what he did. They will argue that there should be no tightening of gun control laws. They will ardently support the troops fighting wars America never should have started. They will never connect the dots between those wars and Sandy Hook School and Hurricane Sandy.  

Maybe Ben Stein ought to run with me for a while, get to know the Bible I know, the Jesus I know, the God I know. Then, maybe Ben would write and talk about that Bible and Jesus and God, and urge them being taught in American schools and workplaces. What you wanna bet fundamental Christians would not object and howl “Separation of Church and State!”, and call Ben Stein the Devil?
If I were President Obama, and if I wished to try to change fundamental Islam’s thinking, I would buy the rights to digitalize Michael Grouber’s novel, The Good Son, and I would put it on the World Wide Web for free, so that anyone with an Internet connection could download and read it. If President Obama did that, I imagine Gruber would join Salman Rushdie, author of The Satanic Verses, as having death a warrant issued against him by fundamental Mulsim clerics. However, any Muslim cleric who’s had even the barest of experience with the hand of God at work on this world would wonder how in the hell a white non-Muslim American could have written such a  comprehensive penetrating book as that about Islam? The Devil might even wonder that. The Devil might also wonder why President Obama, a Christian, carrine don G.W. Bush’s two wars?
Speaking of whom, what – if you don’t forward this post, you will die and burn in hell forever … Just joking, that’s the Devil’s tactic … If something is worthwhile, it doesn’t need the Devil to promote it … I have never been this ill because of something I was given to write and publish …
Sloan Bashinsky
P.S. This below came in from mi amiga Jan, responding to a draft of the above, which I sent to her yesterday:
The reason it jumped out at me is messages people forward to me about God and the Bible in schools are twisted to hell and back, passages are cherry picked out of context, agendas are pushed, and sometimes I reply to those forwards and sometimes I delete them, despite the predictable challenge at the bottom to forward it – otherwise, I am a devil-worshipper.  I couldn’t agree more.  So true and so ridiculous.  I generally erase those “forward me or else” comments before I forward them.  

I would be fine with the Bible, Old and New Testaments, and the Hebrew Scriptures, and the Koran, and the Buddhist and Hindu Scriptures, and the Taoist Scriptures, and other Scriptures being taught as history course in public schools, and being discussed in the workplace, if presented as history and not in the way Christians, in the main, today want to present the Bible in public schools and in the workplace. In all religions are admonitions against evil-doing, but you can bet Christians, in the main, believe all but they are going to die and burn in hell, and on they, on the other hand, will die and go to heaven. That horse shit I will never be okay with in public schools on in the workplace, nor will I ever be okay with public money being used to fund Christian schools.  Again, spot-on!  I remember as a kid hearing my mom say that the family across the street were Catholics and they didn’t interpret the Bible “right” and were not going to heaven.  So, let me get this straight.  Depending on which continent, in which country, in which state, on which street and on which side of the road you grow up on and then, accepting what your parents told you is “the truth” makes all the difference.  On another note, you’ll find this funny.  On visiting Vatican City (OMG what a bunch of extravagant use of pilfered money that is!)  hall upon hall of georgous carved marble statues had their penises whacked off.  Some priest decided that they were sinful and took a sledge-hammer to them all.  Made me chuckle at the ignorance at the time.  Hey, it’s just all skin people.  But, what a shame to destroy all that art.

About Sloan

Darn, that would take a while. Try the autobiographical pages in the header. Ditto for header menu pages at www.goodmorningbirmingham.com. Hatched and raised there, eventually I ran away from home. Here's a short list: Born 1942; male; single; accused of all sorts of imaginable and unimaginable things, perhaps some true. Live on Key West of Weird asteroid. Publish something most days on this website, been at that since July 2007. That's heaps of catch-up reading, probably not recommended.
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